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Joel Osteen

Many of today's so-called Christians are on the broad road to apostasy. They are spiritually malnourished and have little spiritual discernment. False teachers are bringing "judge not" from the pulpits.

But, what about what Jesus says?

Matthew 7:20-23 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
[21] Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. [22] Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? [23] And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
(KJV)

YES! Jesus does say: Matthew 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged. (KJV) But, He also states in Matthew 7:21-23 one of the most frightening warnings found in all the Scriptures.

Many (not a few) people that openly call Jesus "Lord, Lord . . ." and many that "prophesy in thy name. . ." and ". . . cast out devils. . ." and in the name of Jesus Christ perform "many wonderful works. . ."? Jesus will say to them: "I NEVER knew you." They were NEVER saved. If they were saved, Jesus could not say, I NEVER knew you. YES! There are many out there doing good things! But IF they are doing good things and are NOT saved, I NEVER knew you is what they shall hear on Judgment Day! Despite their many wonderful works in the name of Jesus, despite calling Him "Lord, Lord", Christ Jesus will cast them into an eternal lake of fire, saying: "ye that work iniquity."

Matthew 7:13-20 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: [14] Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. [15] Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. [16] Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? [17] Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. [18] A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. [19] Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. [20] Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. (KJV)

How can we "Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves"? if we do not "judge" who the "false prophets" are? How can we KNOW who the "false prophets" are? These preachers appear as "sheep" (saved people), spouting smooth words to their immense following; but they are nothing but "ravening wolves." HOW do we know? There is only one way!!! Check out EVERYTHING and EVERYONE by the Word of God; the perfect and unchangeable Word of God (Acts 17:11).

These false teachers/preachers say: "I can't judge them, I don't know their heart." What does Jesus say??? Matthew 15:18-19 But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man. [19] For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies: (KJV) What comes out the mouth STARTS in the heart!!

So, what was it that came out of the heart and mouth of Joel Osteen in the June 20, 2005 interview with Larry King?

The first alarming statement from Osteen's heart and mouth deals with the most important fundamental doctrine in the Bible . . . salvation is only through the redemptive Blood of the Lord Jesus Christ at Calvary. Nothing is more important. Nothing is more clear in the Bible. The following scriptures quite clearly proclaim Jesus Christ as the ONE and ONLY way of salvation! There is NO room for misinterpreting or misunderstanding. The Bible makes this crystal-clear. Other doctrines may have room for argument, but not this one.

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. (KJV)

Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. (KJV)

John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him. (KJV)

1 Timothy 2:5-6 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; (KJV)

These verses tell it right to the point! This next one too!

1 Peter 1:18-19 Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers; [19] But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot: (KJV)

Words in bold brown are Osteen's words.

On Larry King Live, the following very disturbing conversation occurred with Larry King and Joel Osteen:

KING: What if you're Jewish or Muslim, you don't accept Christ at all?
OSTEEN: You know, I'm very careful about saying who would and wouldn't go to heaven. I don't know ...

Larry King appears surprised by Osteen's answer. Then Larry asks Osteen another question to explain his previous answer. And again Osteen openly denies that Jesus Christ is the ONLY way of salvation.

KING: If you believe you have to believe in Christ? They're wrong, aren't they?
OSTEEN: Well, I don't know if I believe they're wrong. I believe here's what the Bible teaches and from the Christian faith this is what I believe. But I just think that only God will judge a person's heart. I spent a lot of time in India with my father. I don't know all about their religion. But I know they love God. And I don't know. I've seen their sincerity. So I don't know. I know for me, and what the Bible teaches, I want to have a relationship with Jesus.

Osteen again denies the redemptive work of the Lord Jesus Christ. Notice, he praises the pagan, false-religion of India as "I know they love God." Unbelievable. . .

Do you think that Larry King caught Joel Osteen off guard? Maybe Osteen wasn't really prepared. Maybe Osteen needed another chance to testify of the redemptive work of the Lord Jesus Christ, maybe then he'd get it straight!

Osteen got another chance. . .
After Larry King opened the phone lines, a concerned Christian asks Joel to clarify his previous statement (above). Osteen could have clear this up, but he did not!

CALLER: Hello, Larry. You're the best, and thank you, Joe -- Joel -- for your positive messages and your book. I'm wondering, though, why you side-stepped Larry's earlier question about how we get to heaven? The Bible clearly tells us that Jesus is the way, the truth and the light and the only way to the father is through him. That's not really a message of condemnation but of truth.
OSTEEN: Yes, I would agree with her. I believe that. . .

KING: So then a Jew is not going to heaven?
OSTEEN: No. Here's my thing, Larry, is I can't judge somebody's heart. You know? Only God can look at somebody's heart, and so -- I don't know. To me, it's not my business to say, you know, this one is or this one isn't. I just say, here's what the Bible teaches and I'm going to put my faith in Christ. And I just I think it's wrong when you go around saying, you're saying you're not going, you're not going, you're not going, because it's not exactly my way. I'm just...

KING: But you believe your way.
OSTEEN: I believe my way. I believe my way with all my heart.

KING: But for someone who doesn't share it is wrong, isn't he?
OSTEEN: Well, yes. Well, I don't know if I look at it like that. I would present my way, but I'm just going to let God be the judge of that. I don't know. I don't know.

KING: So you make no judgment on anyone?
OSTEEN: No. But I...

Larry now tosses Joel a tough question. And again, Osteen will NOTconfess that Jesus Christ is the ONLY way of salvation.

KING: What about atheists?
OSTEEN: You know what, I'm going to let someone -- I'm going to let God be the judge of who goes to heaven and hell. I just -- again, I present the truth, and I say it every week. You know, I believe it's a relationship with Jesus. But you know what? I'm not going to go around telling everybody else if they don't want to believe that that's going to be their choice. God's got to look at your own heart. God's got to look at your heart, and only God knows that.

The Bible is extremely clear. There is one, and only one way out of an eternal Hell and that is the precious Blood of the Lord Jesus Christ. "A relationship with Jesus Christ" just will NOT do it! Judas Iscariot had a "relationship" with Jesus Christ, walking and talking with the Lord, and even "kissing" the Lord (Luke 22:47), but Judas went to Hell (Acts 1:25). Rev. 1:5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood, (KJV) What can wash away my sins? NOTHING BUT THE BLOOD OF JESUS!

The teaching professed by Osteen that ". . . God has to look at your heart" for salvation, is wrong. It is dead wrong. God has already looked at your heart. What does He see??? Jeremiah 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it? (KJV) Jesus tells us: But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man. (Mat.15:18)

Osteen's refusal to confess the sole redemptive salvation of the Lord Jesus Christ made many of Osteen's followers to wonder about him, sending him email and letters questioning his statements. Osteen issued an apology on his web site, stating:

Dear Friend,
Many of you have called, written or e-mailed regarding my recent appearance on Larry King Live. I appreciate your comments and value your words of correction and encouragement. It was never my desire or intention to leave any doubt as to what I believe and Whom I serve. I believe with all my heart that it is only through Christ that we have hope in eternal life. I regret and sincerely apologize that I was unclear on the very thing in which I have dedicated my life. Jesus declared in John 14:6 I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father but by me. I believe that Jesus Christ alone is the only way to salvation. However, it wasn't until I had the opportunity to review the transcript of the interview that I realize I had not clearly stated that having a personal relationship with Jesus is the only way to heaven. It's about the individual's choice to follow Him.

God has given me a platform to present the Gospel to a very diverse audience. In my desire not to alienate the people that Jesus came to save, I did not clearly communicate the convictions that I hold so precious. I will use this as a learning experience and believe that God will ultimately use it for my good and His glory. I am comforted by the fact that He sees my heart and knows my intentions. I am so thankful that I have friends, like you, who are willing to share their concerns with me. Thank you again to those who have written. I hope that you accept my deepest apology and see it in your heart to extend to me grace and forgiveness. As always, I covet your prayers and I am believing for God's best in your life,
(http://www.joelosteen.com/site/PageServer?pagename=LarryKingLetter)

In my humble opinion, Osteen was crystal clear. He clearly and continually REJECTED that the Lord Jesus Christ was the ONLY way of salvation! We are not talking about a "babe in Christ" who may have had a momentary doubt, we are talking about the pastor of the largest church in the nation! He is a supposed ambassador for the Lord Jesus Christ on a very popular TV show and refuses to acknowledge the very thing he supposedly has "dedicated his life"? Something is drastically wrong here!

Osteen's trying to gloss over and apologize for his erroneous statements will NOT hold up on Judgment Day! Mark 8:38 Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels. (KJV) . . . Osteen repeatedly REFUSED to confess that Christ Jesus is the only way of salvation. The foundation of our Christian faith is based on the sole redemptive Blood of the Lord Jesus, nothing but the Blood of Jesus! Without that, there is NO Christian faith. For a preacher, and one of Osteen's stature, to repeatedly refuse to confess that Christ Jesus is the only way of salvation is without excuse, and any and all apologies will not stand up in God's eyes!

1 Peter 3:15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear: (KJV) Our faith in Christ Jesus is NOT a personal matter that should be kept to oneself. We should ALWAYS be ready to give an answer, gently and respectfully, when asked about our faith in Him. Others should clearly be able to see your hope in Christ! You should always be prepared to tell them what Christ means to you!!! Osteen did NOT do this!!!

Some other statements from Osteen during the Larry King interview were in direct opposition to the Word of God.

KING: But you're not fire and brimstone, right? You're not pound the decks and hell and damnation?
OSTEEN: No. That's not me. It's never been me. I've always been an encourager at heart. And when I took over from my father he came from the Southern Baptist background and back 40, 50 years ago there was a lot more of that. But, you know, I just -- I don't believe in that. I don't believe -- maybe it was for a time. But I don't have it in my heart to condemn people. I'm there to encourage them. I see myself more as a coach, as a motivator to help them experience the life God has for us.

WHO was the greatest "fire and brimstone" preacher that ever lived??? Our precious Saviour and Lord, Christ Jesus . . . that's who!!! He spoke more on HELL than He did any other subject!!! WHY??? Because Jesus wants NO one to go there!!! If Osteen does not believe in preaching about the horrors of Hell, he simply does NOT believe the Bible!!!

Our precious Lord Jesus took Hell VERY seriously.

Matthew 5:29-30 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell. [30] And if thy right hand offend thee, cut if off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell. (KJV)

Christ Jesus took Hell very seriously! He knew Hell was real, because He was the Creator of all things including Hell (John 1:3; Col. 1:16; Heb.1:2).

Osteen may sound like a good ole boy when he says, ". . . I don't have it in my heart to condemn people," but according to our Lord Jesus, they are already condemned. John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. (KJV)

A born again believer's message is NOT condemnation, but the way OUT of being ALREADY condemned. If there were no Hell, no fire and brimstone, then there was no reason for Jesus to die on the cross. It was a waste. Hell is a part of the Gospel, just as is the Blood of Christ Jesus. No condemnation. No Hell. No Blood. No Gospel. No Heaven.

Friend, if you believe the Bible, it is your obligation and your DUTY to be merciful and warn people about Hell! To warn someone of the fires of eternal Hell is NOT condemning them, and you are NOT judging them . . . it is just the exact opposite! You are trying to keep them from being condemned to Hell!

Because of Osteen's erroneous and confusing answers, Larry King point-blank asks Osteen if he believed the Bible. Isn't that a strange question to ask the pastor of the largest church in Amerca?

KING: You believe in the Bible literally?
OSTEEN: I do, I do.

Something does not add up here! IF Osteen claims to believe the Bible and IF the Bible clearly and repeatedly warns of a place of called Hell, a place of eternal fire and torments where the vast majority of people will suffer in torments for all eternity, either Osteen OR the Bible is wrong! Is Osteen wrong? Or is the Bible wrong??? Which do you say that it is???

Matthew 13:49-50 So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just, [50] And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. (KJV)

Rev. 14:10-11 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: [11] And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name. (KJV)

Rev. 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. (KJV)

How can "Pastor" Osteen, or anyone else, claim to believe the Bible and refuse to warn people about Hell??? Is anyone that devoid of mercy???

Anyone that professes to believe the Bible and refuses to warn people about Hell; either does not believe the Bible at all, or they do not care about the souls of men! This 'pastor' may seem to be a smiley, sweet-talking, loving, compassionate man, but the devil has a hold on him!!!

2 Cor. 11:14-15 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. [15] Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works. (KJV)

Larry King then asked Osteen about the wicked and vile sins of abortion and homosexuality. Even lost people take a stand on these outright sins.

KING: How about issues that the church has feelings about? Abortion? Same-sex marriages?
OSTEEN: Yeah. You know what, Larry? I don't go there. I just ...

GOD went there!!! Abortion is murder! (Ex.20:13). And He destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah because of the so-called "gay" lifestyle!!! (Gen.19:24-25; Luke 17:29).

KING: You have thoughts, though.
OSTEEN: I have thoughts. I just, you know, I don't think that a same-sex marriage is the way God intended it to be. I don't think abortion is the best. I think there are other, you know, a better way to live your life. But I'm not going to condemn those people. I tell them all the time our church is open for everybody.

Larry allows Osteen to clarify his confusing position. And again Osteen blatantly contradicts the words of the Lord Jesus Christ.

KING: You don't call them sinners?
OSTEEN: I don't. The Bible does!!! (Rom.3:10, 23).

KING: Is that a word you don't use?
OSTEEN: I don't use it. I never thought about it. But I probably don't. But most people already know what they're doing wrong. When I get them to church I want to tell them that you can change. There can be a difference in your life. So I don't go down the road of condemning.

The word "sin" occurs in the King James Bible 389 times. "Sins" occurs 166 times."Iniquities" occurs 55 times. "Sinners" occurs 46 times. "Sinner" occurs 21 times. "Transgressions" occurs 47 times.

After the previous surprising answers, Larry then asks Osteen the obvious question: Do you believe the Bible?

KING: You believe in the Bible literally?
OSTEEN: I do, I do.

KING: Is it hard to lead a Christian life?
OSTEEN: I don't think it's that hard. To me it's fun. We have joy and happiness. Our family -- I don't feel like that at all. I'm not trying to follow a set of rules and stuff. I'm just living my life.

KING: But you have rules, don't you?
OSTEEN: We do have rules. But the main rule to me is to honor God with your life. To live a life of integrity. Not be selfish. You know, help others. But that's really the essence of the Christian faith.

The "essence of Osteen's Christian faith" is to "help others." (And along the way make money using God's Name)
The apostle Paul gives us the "essence" of the Christian faith:
1 Corinthians 15:3-5 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; [4] And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: [5] And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve: (KJV)

BEWARE!!!! Stay away from Joel Osteen and his no condemnation, self-esteem, false-gospel. Warn others. Stay away! Your eternal soul is at risk, is in grave danger!

As born again believers, we can and will disagree on certain doctrinal issues, but NEVER on the redemptive work and Person of the Lord Jesus Christ. God forbid! May God help us to have spiritual discernment on what we hear and read.Let us continue to check out everything with God's Holy Word! Acts 17:11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so. (KJV) Let us always be able to "see" serious doctrinal errors, no matter how well liked the preacher is! And several of Joel Osteen's statements on Larry King Live were very serious.

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